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Maasdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3858

posted 09-01-2005 06:32 AM

And that is the island Princess and here near sister Coral. My goodness what must they have think designing those vessels. it's a shame fore the industry. I believe that Princess took ablender put design pieces frome there other vessels and mix theme and there you have 2 new classes. They must shame theme self............

Greetings Ben.

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Tom Burke
First Class Passenger
Member # 5238

posted 09-01-2005 07:38 AM

Actually, while these certainly aren't attractive, I think they're not as bad as the ones with the spoiler at the back - Grand Princess and her sisters, I think.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 09-01-2005 09:10 AM

We all might as well give up talking about the aesthetics’ of modern ships, they are just floating hotels and look like it too!

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wile1170
First Class Passenger
Member # 4598

posted 09-01-2005 09:34 AM

I have to respectfully disagree on this one... I was fortunate enough to have cruised on Coral and let me tell you, she is one of my favorites. I've cruised on Grand twice prior to going on Coral, and Coral blows it away... I think that the Coral Princess takes the best of the Grand class and expands upon that to make an even better product.

The ship is absolutely beautiful inside...and the public areas cover virtually 2 complete decks....traffic flow is excellent....

Give Coral a chance and you'll change your mind...such as I did. At first, I thought, What an ugly ship!!! but once I was on it and got to see it up close, it's beautiful

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 09-01-2005 10:07 AM

wile1170 you agree with Ben that the 'Smoothie' out the blender looks bad. However, it's one that tastes good to you once tried. Ben you'll have to splash out to maybe change your opinion; or put the Smoothie in a different glass

Pam

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Maasdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3858

posted 09-01-2005 10:56 AM

quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
wile1170 you agree with Ben that the 'Smoothie' out the blender looks bad. However, it's one that tastes good to you once tried. Ben you'll have to splash out to maybe change your opinion; or put the Smoothie in a different glass
Pam

Yes Pam wile1170 i never talked about the interior. I saw only the outside. She is a smoothie with lumbs on the outside not very tastfull. Maybe one day i will tray this smooty, maybe not. This Princess Flavor is not mine tast afterall. So who like it tast it, and have a great time.

Greetings Ben.

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dmwnc1
Cruise Director
Member # 3785

posted 09-01-2005 11:14 AM

I remember seeing this ship in a documentary on TV, and thinking how incredibly ugly and disjointed it looked on the outside. But the point is too that we dont sleep, eat, and watch shows while looking at the outside. As much as I hate to say, it's whats on the inside of this ugly duckling that counts.

By the way, did I mention that I thought this ship was ugly? :-)

[ 09-01-2005: Message edited by: dmwnc1 ]

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Cambodge
First Class Passenger
Member # 906

posted 09-01-2005 11:38 AM

I googled this quote, often used by my late father, (who died in 1965). He used it, when I was but a lad, in an era when both ships and typewriters were steam powered:

"As a beauty I'm not a great star.
Others are handsomer far;
but my face -- I don't mind it
because I'm behind it;
it's the folks out in front that I jar. ..."

It fits this ship perfectly, IMO.

Posts: 2149 | From: St. Michaels MD USA , the town that fooled the British! | Registered: Nov 1999 | IP: Logged

lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 09-01-2005 12:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by dmwnc1:
I remember seeing this ship in a documentary on TV, and how incredibly ugly and disjointed it looked on the outside. But the point is too that we dont sleep, eat, and watch shows while looking at the outside. As much as I hate to say, it's whats on the inside of this ugly duckling that counts.
By the way, did I mention that I thought this ship was ugly?

It is a sad fact of the cruise lines today. Build from the inside out. Gone are the days when exterior aesthetics were nearly as important as the interior. Of course this has been going on now for over 20 years so it is not new.

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eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649

posted 09-01-2005 01:06 PM

I sailed on CORAL PRINCESS and I can say she and her sister ISLAND PRINCESS are probably the two best ships in the Princess fleet IMO. Very spacious and well laid out, also with excellent pool and gym areas. The only flaw is the lack of a true disco/nightclub like the Grand Class ships have. It's too bad Princess doesn't have more like them or I might like the cruise line a lot better. I just hope they never add MUTS.

As for their exteriors, I don't think they will win any beauty contests but I also don't think they are the worst out there. I think Celebrity's M-Class and some of the MSC ships (from Festival) have them beat.

Ernie

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 09-01-2005 01:07 PM

That is what you get if there are only a hand full of mega cruise companies ruling the market. They see no necessity to win over people like 20 years and more ago when there were a lot more smaller companies competing with each other and saw styling (think of Spirit of London, Cunard Adventurer, love boats) as a way to attract new people into cruising on a new and different looking product then an ocean liner.

Also globalization of corporations has ended national pride within companies to show the world the latest in national styling and design, ships are no longer a countries pride.

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elad
First Class Passenger
Member # 5150

posted 09-01-2005 01:44 PM

i think that NCL are specialist in everything to do
with ugly newbuilds:
norwegian dawn for example.
for princess new builds - i agree - the funnel is the top for me.....(seems that inspired from an old 60's Chevi's aft

)

Elad

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 09-01-2005 01:47 PM

This ship would not be worse than others - but it has this massive funnel with this extremely embaressing grey things up there...

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 09-01-2005 02:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
This ship would not be worse than others - but it has this massive funnel with this extremely embaressing grey things up there...

Those are used when the ship is running behind schedule. The captain can activate them for added thrust/push and make up lost time.

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Maasdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3858

posted 09-01-2005 08:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
Those are used when the ship is running behind schedule. The captain can activate them for added thrust/push and make up lost time.

Is't a bird is't Superman is't a plane is't a speedboat no it's Super Island Princess. The rocket powered cruisething.

Greetings Ben.

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 09-01-2005 11:56 PM

quote:
eroller wrote:
As for their exteriors, I don't think they will win any beauty contests but I also don't think they are the worst out there. I think Celebrity's M-Class and some of the MSC ships (from Festival) have them beat.

In the case of the ex-Festival Mistral-class ships now owned by MSC, the (beak) bow and (stripped) stern sections look bad, the rest really, is not too different from most other boxy cruise ships. Celebrity’s M-class, I think, takes the cake for exterior originality (in the worst kind of way).

I just wonder how much of the Coral-class will be in MSC MUSICA and ORCHESTRA that we haven’t already picked-up from the exterior renderings?

******

Cheers

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sunviking82
First Class Passenger
Member # 4930

posted 09-02-2005 11:13 AM

Coral, Island, Saphire and Diamond would be find if those horried fake jet engines would be removed from the smoke stacks. They don't do anything but are on all Princess gas turbine ships. Put a Sun Class stack on them, then they would look rather nice. As for the interior layout. . Island and Coral offer an updated version of the Sun Class and "only" 2000 passengers.

Princess, plus lose the jet engines!!!

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mrblanche
First Class Passenger
Member # 714

posted 09-10-2005 07:58 PM

I thought the Grand Princess, with its 1969 Dodge Daytona spoiler and hamster track up to it was ridiculous, until we docked next to the Coral Princess. What was any engineer thinking that attached those ridiculous jet pods to the stack?

I personally think this may have been done by some refugees from Pontiac (the Aztek) and Cadillac (CTS), who wouldn't know ugly if it kissed them on sunlit street corner.

[ 09-10-2005: Message edited by: mrblanche ]

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Commodore
First Class Passenger
Member # 1575

posted 09-10-2005 09:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Cambodge:
I googled this quote, often used by my late father, (who died in 1965). He used it, when I was but a lad, in an era when both ships and typewriters were steam powered:
"As a beauty I'm not a great star.
Others are handsomer far;
but my face -- I don't mind it
because I'm behind it;
it's the folks out in front that I jar. ..."
It fits this ship perfectly, IMO.

It's a Woodrow Wilson limerick, at least to my knowledge. I can imagine it does suit those ships just right, as well as a lot of other things....

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