It would not surprise me if there is a greater expense in creating these large round windows out of the hull, rather then the rectangle window as is found on almost every other new build.

Also, Carnival has some true porthole cabins even on their newest ships... they are located all the way forward.

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Originally posted by eroller:
Interestingly enough, the new ships of Royal Caribbean and Celebrity have at least kept the concept of a "traditional" round porthole in their outside cabins. While they are too large to be considered an actual porthole, they are none the less round keeping the nautical feeling.

It would not surprise me if there is a greater expense in creating these large round windows out of the hull, rather then the rectangle window as is found on almost every other new build.

Also, Carnival has some true porthole cabins even on their newest ships... they are located all the way forward.

Ernie

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Isn't it a SOLAS requirement that the lowest deck of windows on a ship be portholes? I am certain I read that somewheres........

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Originally posted by Keitaro:
Does the INDY have porthole windows?

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Most of her outside cabins have portholes, as do just about all ships of that era.

Windows in most/all outside cabins really came about in the early 1980s. SONG OF AMERICA comes to mind as a very early example of widespread windows.

The last ship I can think of that had lots of portholes (not round windows like the new RCI ships, I mean portholes) was COSTA ALLEGRA.

And many ships, even new ones, have a few cabins with portholes, often sold at a discounted rate. So portholes have certainly become less common, but are not really in danger of becoming extinct.

In 1995 I was responsible for one of the less-pleasant cabins we have, an outside all the way forward on the lowest deck of HORIZON. My parents talked about portholes on the old ships, etc., which resulted in my wanting to go on a ship with portholes, so as to see exactly what a porthole was . The compromise was a cabin on a new ship with a porthole. Unfortunately, the cabin in question also turned out to be a real "anchor suite" if you know what I mean ...

Anyhow, I got my porthole... I should have been more persistent about an old ship though, most of the ships with portholes at the time don't even exist any more !

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Originally posted by vikingcrown:
I can think of a few recent ships that have portholes.
7. Probaby Fred Olsen ships like Black Watch...

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Perhaps the list of ships without any portholes would be shorter Most seem to have a few.
On Norwegian Dream it was a foot+ from the porthole to the outside of the hull, not just 'Round Windows'. didn't xamine the 'screw' to see if it would turn, but the storm covers were there in the wardrobe too.

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I'm not saying you're wrong, but are you sure about that list? I don't think the R1-R8 ships have portholes for passenger cabins, nor the Regal Princess, but I could be wrong.

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It's interesting that Carnival offers both inside and outside cabins in the 1A rate all at the same price. First come gets the outside cabins... even though they are just porthole cabins (two portholes) instead of a large window.

The cabin will look something like this (taken from CARNIVAL VICTORY) but the furnishings, curtains, and bedspreads will be somewhat upgraded like on the Spirit Class ships. Click Here The nice thing is that even though Carnival advertises these cabins as upper/lower berth cabins (and some are), many have a lower bed and couch as the second bed (like mine will). Very good value for the money if you can pick the right cabin.

Ernie

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Very good value for the money if you can pick the right cabin.

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Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

It quickly became clear when we met the QE2 transatlantic crossing in December 02, that you are a master at picking the bargain cabins!

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Hi Malcolm,
I try, but on the newer ships it's not as much fun as they are all pretty much all the same!

It's always a challenge for me to get the very best cabin for the category picked and money paid.

The interesting thing about the category 1A's on the newer Carnival ships is that they are still 180 sq ft, which is the same size as the standard cabins. They are just located all the way forward or in a odd location, and sometimes have a different shape.

On QE2, I picked the 2nd largest M5 there was, but I have to admit I was still a little shocked at how small it was (you know, you saw!). It would have been fine as a single... without the bugs of course.